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•»—, jljj i'i'8. If. l| I-1 11 11 11 I j| 'J ii i'| «4 ia !. fl ig 1$ 'i -:i!-*k life S) i'l 'Xi Is! lit rjj i)| 8 111 til If !Jl^ |i 3 Iji! i4 li Information About Bills in Congress FOB A FULL DISCUSSION I read something in the Leader about whether space should be given for birth control discussions, in reference to rural com munities. I believe one page in the Leader should be devoted to that for six months. If letters on the matter received by the Leader are too numerous to publish, I would suggest that the Leader quote from them, and thus publish the principal points brought out.—T. S. C. G., Watts, CaL "FEWER BUT BETTER CHILDREN" -About birth control, this is my opinion: Fewer and better children, and healthier mothers. We were 14 children in our family, but I have never been grateral to my parents for bring ing me into this world. I have worked for different wealthy families and they all had but few children. Give the .farm women the same knowledge. The farm women should take time to give their opinion about these things. .1 am proud of the farm women's page.—H. C., Milltown, Wis. HAVE WE "SOLD OUT"? Birth control How can you ask the question Have you sold out? Are you trying to cut the throat of your paper? What good can be accomplished by such a discussion? Abso lutely none. Can harm be done? It certainly can. Is it not your mission to establish economic justice? To give toiling parents the fruits of their labor So that large families become a blessing instead of a burden? Have you lost hope in this, your mission If so, step down and let some courageous char acter take your place. I have children as pure as it is possible by the grace of God to have on -the farms. They read your paper. When you start your birth control discussion, stop my paper. Or better still, discuss your birth control in a birth con trol edition, this edition to be sent only such subscribers aB may signify a. desire to read such a degraded discussion.—.. T. B., Clarkfieid, S. D. FROM MOTHER OF THIRTEEN I am the mother of 13 children. All the wealth on earth would never touch one of them. I am for the maternity bill and more too. I hope the day will come when each county and every state will have a hospital just for the expectant mother, to be taken care of until she and the baby are out of danger. I know mothers today that have done their own washings and house work when the baby was three days old. In the -first place they did not know the danger, and in the second place they had no means to hire the work done. Give the mothers a chance, the same as a horse or cow.. Mary Grab's letters are so good they make me happy to read them. I am opposed to birth control. God made women to bear children and when they practice birth control it is against our creator's will and they will surely be punished. Any woman that would rather nurse a poodle dog than her own flesh and blood—let her do her own murdering at the risk of her own life. After I read the Leader I pass it on to' my neighbors. Every one I know likes to read it.—A. C., Watonga, Okla. DISCUSS POLITICS, NOT BIRTH CONTROL I see in the issue of February 20 that hiB j:ii fi £vi.. J-W S §:'i Isr !i Birth Control Debate Grows Warm Borne women would like to use the space in the Leader to have a birth control talk. WiH vou please tell them to keep that stuff off the pages of the National Leader? The Leader iB a political paper and there fore its valuable space should not be taken up with other stuff. We have no space to spare -in fact, we are short, for the Leader should come once a week and should have 60 pages in stead of 16. This educating of the people politically is an enormous big job, and as the Leader is small and comes only •every two weeks, any one can see we have no space or time to lose. The Leader discontinued some time ago the so-called "farm page." It was right that it did so, because we can get all of til at kind of information free from the agricultural de partment. I like the farm women's page, but I do not like to see them use that space for talk outside of politics. The women need political education more than the men, because the r"an have more experience with politics.—W. K., Mill boro, S. D. "MASTER CLASS" WANTS BIG FAMILIES By all manner of means, yes, discuss birth control-—any and of plXblicity in regard to the question of birth con trol are necessary to the education of women in economics. We know that our master class favors large families among the workers, because the more competition among the workers, the lower wages will be. The more children in industry the less work for men and women. The more women who are tied down with large families, the less chance for their and the families' education along the lines of economics. We know, too, that among the "higher-ups" birth control is prac ticed and that women who can afford large families do not have them. But to me, the best argument for birth control is ,thjt of "voluntary motherhood," rather than the having of unwanted children—preparation and intelligent thought in bringing into the world children, who may be strong and healthy and wanted I By all means let Us discuss this matter, remembering, however, that it is against the man-made Jaw to offer direct information to another, or send through the mails any definite information on the subject.—M. A., Twin Failti, Idaho. RAISES A WARNING HAND It is frankly the opinion of dozens of people* I have talked to, and I think of the greater number of your subscribers here, that a discussion of birth control would bring a -storm of criti cism from the common people and plenty of ridicule from the other political parties. You know these things are miscon strued and the mere discussion of the subject draws the con clusion from so many that we favor it. They shouted "North Dakota and free love" at us last campaign, saying: "Are you going to bring that thing down, here?" North Dakota never contemplated such a condition, but outside propaganda gave them the credit. One man. said to me today: "If they take up the discussion of that subject in our Leader, I will leave it to rot in the mail box." The man who spoke so firmly speaks' with equal firmness for every principle of the Nonpartisan league and words carry weight and respect. Can we not keep away from these dirty subjects, which, no matter what -side we take, serve merely to give us a black eye? Let us discuss League issues. If the women must diversify, on subjects other than 'League politics, there are subjects without number on which they can communicate with profit and never-ending interest Among these we could mention the home, the church, the schools, society, styles for women, and other subjects. The exclamations of disgust which hear all over among the com mon people against the discussion in'our paper of birth con-, trol have caused me to raise a warning hand.—M. H., Can ton, S. D. DOESN'T MEAN BACE SUICIDE I am glad you are opening up the woman's page for a sub feet of such great «nd vital iinportance as birth control. An' investigation bx trne of our large magazines -a few years ago proved thai the knowledge of birth control would not mean race suicide. It showed that college girls and professional women who had given the subject careful consideration desired children more than those whose experience had been a poor htune and large families. The average number .of children de sired by a well informed, woman was four, which of course would not mean rate suicide. It would thean that the children would start life right by being planned for and' desired. There Hi -r fospelU J. Ik' 7 W 7 W TH] EFA] EtM WOMAN'S PAGERS^ are thousands of women who have become semi-invalid because of too prolific offspring. The mother had no chance to regain her health between each, child-birth. Thousands, of women have been made invalids because of attempted abortion some have actually died in the attempt, Thousands 'of children are half starved because their parents are unable to supply their needs. Thousands of children are mentally and physically de ficient because the mother was weak from too frequent" child bearing. Other thousands are born from syphilitic, tubercular and epileptic parents, who should never have been born at all Breeding of domestic animals is very carelully regulated, in order to have a good raoe. But children, can come by chance. What handicaps will the future generation .have under such: conditions Human beings should be alio wot- to decide how many' children, they should have. Our laws are against giving advice how to prevent conception, hut the criminal abortion ist is very seldom reached by the law. Every, true woman desires children, but does not wish to have motherhood forced upon her. Every true man desires children, hut does not fed that children should be brought into the world to be half starv ed and with no advantages.—J. N. Firth, Idaho. .. FROM MOTHER OF FOURTEEN I see some articles in the Leader on birth control. It is surprising and shows lack of propriety. The best and blessed gift God gave to womanhood is that, of motherhood. Now perhaps you may not think I'm fair when I tell you that I'm the mother of 14 children, all living except one boy—eight boys and six girls. I believe they would all be living if I had had better care and more oonveniences But living on a beautiful farm in Minnesota, and then moving on a homestead 18 miles from town and living in a shack with no plaster on the walls —just a shed—it took me three years to get acclimated. It is no wonder the little one could not live. I scarcely lived my self. But I did pull through and I'm blest with four more making a baker's dozen, as my friends call them.—E. W. E., Bessie,. N. D. NOT A "DISGUSTING" SUBJECT So many of the readers of the National Leader are_ interested in the subject of birth control that I wish to ask in all sin cerity why should any well-read "and "Sensible person assume that the subject is disgusting? No question under God's own creation- is of more importance. No condition in this world of impossible and unreasonable conditions needs to he purified and adjusted as the all important one of birth control. I wish the pages of the Leader could lie used as a means of educating the man and women so that they could see the necessity- of bringing children into the light of existence in the right way. In all justice to the fathers and mothers, to the many numbers of dear little ones and to'all that are.in true and earnest sym-. pathy with this great work, I wish you Godspeed.—K. G. O., Nezperce, Idaho. HELP! HELP! Don't write us any more letters on birth control. Here's a whole page of 'em. We have enough on Jiand to fill a page in the next issue, and they are still coming! If we devote a page to the debate next issue both sides will then have had a fair show. Well, just as we expected, the editor is "get ting it" good and plenty. Several, letters have called him down for permitting the de bate and one or two readers threaten to resign as subscribers. But the Leader and the edi tor have.taken no stand in the controversy. We are letting YOU do the debating. The fact that such a large number of read ers are interested, for or against, we believe has justified the debate. We ask those friends who have criticized iis to read the letters printed. Net a writer has written anything that could justly offend any one. The debate has been conducted on a high plane and we sincerely hope there will be no hard feelings, even by a few. MATTER OF BELIEF OR UNBELIEF You say you dare print the truth, so l.hope to find my letter on the woman's page. I mean that my letter should put an end to all discussion of both sides of the birth control question. It is nothing more and nothing less than belief and. unbelief. Birth control is one of the great evils in this world, and a terrible temptation to Christians and church1 people. The living "God that feeds the sparrows has promised to feed us. Any father that believes this promise of God Will always find a way to feed his children, even if Iff or. 20. To any woman that wants to tell us how to be married and have no .children we must reply that "it is not God's way*' The Lord taught us to pray "deliver us from evil." He did not teach us to pray to take evil out of the world. So we all have a right to choosei The people that choose silk clothes, fine houses and worldly pleasure instead of children, let them have it^.but let us. re member the end .of Lazarus and .the rich man. What are churches for if people are going to do the same evil things that worldly people do. I blame the ministers of the gospel. If they don't get to their doty and business and preach against such evils in hot earnest, there will very soon be no righteous ness. In churches God is love, and he loves littje children more than anything else. Where thereMs no love for little children, there will be no heaven. I hope that all ministers of the/ will read my letter-and get to their duty in earnest— N FROM MOTHER OF SIX have raised a family of six children and am now the grand ..', mother of 10 children, nut I- believe in birth control. O. K., Fargo, N. D., says you will get thousands of letters from mothers who are doing more than their share of child-bearing, expressing -their abhorrence ofthe practice of birth control. Maybe you will, but I have always lived in'a farming com munity or small town and have been called' in many times to ..attend a farm' or working-class mother on the arrival of a new baby, and I have yet to mieet the first -one who hasn't expressed a wish that she knew of some way to keep her children "far enough apart so that one chould «t least walk 'atone before another arrived to take its place. And ill almost, every case .. PAGE TEN *€36 A A ot the mother was not thinking of her own pain and trouble, but. f- the children she could not-properly-care for. M. M. A, Yakima, Wash., says there is no law of God or man against continence. Quite right, but that is cold comfort for the av erage married woman who, under our present stage of civiliza tion, is to a certain extent her husband's chattel and whoBe spiritual adviser is often strongly opposed to birth control. He will tell her that she must be subject to her husband's wishes in this respect or he may be tempted to wander after other -f7 females. But I believe with a friend at Huron, S. D., that you 2 will only injure the Leader, at this time, by' taking up the dis- "f cussion of this question. There is-so much prejudice.—A. E., -q Deer Park, Wash. t' SAYS DON'T CHEAPEN LIFE The need of information concerning birth control is more urgent today among the working women of America than it has ever been before. The World war has awakened us to & the realization that governments will continue to plunge nations into wars just as long as we, the mothers of the men, make life cheap. I should think every mother feels, the wrong that the state imposes upon her when it deprives her of informa- a tion to prevent the bringing into the world of children she can not feed or clothe or care for. In cases of women suffering frdm serious ailments. I think these mothers ought to have a right to conserve their lives and to prevent the birth of dis eased or defective children. I think we poor people ought to have the right to limit our families- as well as the rich.—H. F. L.,..Firth, Neb. QUALITY, BUT NOT QUANTITY & So many people hold up their hands in holy horror at the .1 very idea of interfering with God's and nature's plans, but I think that we should remember that God helps them who help themselves. The people who, by reason of their financial con dition and education,' should be the most desirable parents, in & that they have the money and ability to provide for a large a family, are the ones, who have the fewest children. The over- -J worked life-of the.farmer or laborer is usually the one who has the largest number -of children. The crying need of this natitra is not quantity, but quality. Havelock Ellis, an emi nent English scientist^ said that "the need for reproduction is not imperative now as it was in the legandary days of Noah. The only children the world needs now are .those who are worth something to it."—E. A. K., Hinsdale, Mont. ALREADY HERE—WHY BE SHOCKED? So far the" letters favoring birth control seem to have the best of it the majority favor discussion. Others are afraid discussion might injure^ your paper. But all express their opinion freely on the subject and about everything has been said that prudish people dislike to see in print. I. would like to express the opinion that birth control is-not nearly so wicked as is bringing children into the world that are not welcome and not wanted by their -parents. Too many children are born into the world that are not the offsprings «f love. Children" that are the offsprings of love seldom become criminals. Be sides, birth control is coming. In fact it is already here, All we can possibly do is to retard its progress. We might as well learn to discuss the question intelligently and face the issue. Usually those who know so much about God and His laws are not-cumbered with big families. Continence is safe remedy. Sure. Continence is all right, but like socialism, the world is not ready for it. Meanwhile, poverty with big families is craving information.—H. h. B., Eureka, Wash. BETTER CONDITIONS NEEDED Should we discuss birth control? It seems to be quite a quea tion, but the younger generation are settling it. Perhaps when they'see their mothers' cares, and troubles, under the present' system, and see bow they have themselves been denied of educa tion, it will not look so fine to bring -children into the world to suffer for clothing, food and shelter. Just think,| in a world today with plenty of food, clothing and shelter and modern machinery to produce more for us if need be,- we have cheap clothes and food, and living in~ disease-breeding hovels. Why? Because the few control the industries on which the great mass of people depend. We should have* proper government and in this way encourage our younger generation to. bring children into the world with the prospects of having enough-to eat and --.^ proper care. ,Fm toot for birth control, but we cant expect to encourage our sons and daughters when they have had the experience in a family of eight or nine children to care for, with no rest from 6 o'clock in the morning until 9 at night. v-G. D. C., Huerfano. Col. ALL PROGRESS VIOLATES "LAWS" Yes birth control is likely to violate some of nature's laws. When man began td evolve from a savage into a civilized being, abandoning the cave for a comfortable dwelling, earning his -living instead of taking it by force, respecting the females of his tribe, and developing many other civilised traits, he was violating some of nature's laws. Who can name one blessing of civilized life of this ag^ which is not in part or wholly a complete conquest of some of nature's laws? For what are men like Townley, Ladd, and dozens of others working, if not -. to hold in check the national greed of those who strive to Con trol our whole' industrial system? It's good to repeat six times every day "that a conquest of nature is the whole duty of man." Now,"as for the crifne of. birth suppression, the only remedy is the free distribution of knowledge of harmless rem edies to prevent conception. It's a sin to keep such knowledge from married women among the. poor. She alone is the one to decide whether or not die. shall ne such knowledge Whether a discussion of birth control' is of is not allowed id our most appreciated paper,-you can no more stop a movement 1 which promises to relieve so much distress and sin in the world than you can construct a canopy to shut out the rays of GodV -V sunshine.—C. F. L., Declo, Idaho. ...v '•. SORRf QUESTION BROUGHT UP In regard to the question of whether or not you should allow a discussion on birth control in the Leader, I-must ohject. Now this is not saying that my opinion is law »nd gospel: But if all good fathers aha mothers will just take a second thought I am sure I will be with the majority. In the first place, if I understand it right the laws of our great controller, God Almighty, who has, given all mankind a law to follow cer tainly would condemn birth control. There would always he people who would not understand an unlawful performance and a lawful one, and go according to the laws we now have on earth. If this be against the laws we have, why discuss them? We all know there Are ways and meanB to control births, and there are thousands of different opinions, as to. the» correct way. If .a father and mother have not the will power to prevent the forming of a child there iB 'i 5 but one lawful way 'J In my mind stop the. Bame from comina^to maturity, and —•, that is if-a board of doctors %nd- it necessary to tal^e the life of the unborn infant,to save the mother's life, they may do so. I am very sorry £his question should have been brought up for I feel it is a protest against God's laws and human nature. This is a great subject and ohe hard to settle by writing.' It must be .very plain talk to he understood by. all. I fed that j-. those who are already married and dp not want children are AV jC entirely too late. Do your part and let God fcnd nature do its ,r part. If God Almighty does not want to bring children-into this world you will not he bothered with them. And as to the un- 1 married people that do not want the world to have so many it babies, just simply refrain from the holy bonds of matrimony. and be moral, honest and holy. This is pretty'plain, hut really I would like to Bee-this letter in print in Hie Leader. Hoping this will not olfend any good reader.—H. J. F., Baker. Mont.- -.-v ,r -i. if. fcVspT "V 3% SSV^fr-*"-