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-WATERBUItY EVENING DIKIQCIMT. TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1003, DELlGlON in POLITICS Ctf T. II. Crowley Ules Br Darks About Simr. - In lloudav'i edition of the New York Sun appear some lengthy -sx carnti of a letter to President Roo3 velt from a committee of Lutheran clergymen relative to his denounce ment of the refusal to vote tor i Catholic Blmuly because he It a Cath -Dilc. as unwarranted bigotry. The Sun's articlo tells us thut the Luth eran committee ouoted passages from Popes Boniface VIII. Plus IX and Leo XIII. As the passages were not given 'In the article it Is of course Impossi ble to consider them. The commit tea mlirht have, added the names of PoDes Gregory VII and Innocent HI But how the utterances of these popes affects the position of Catholics In the United States is not too clear, iney were contending against a vastly dif ferent condition of affairs that ob tains in this country. Even in the days of Plus IX and Leo XIII, and as is the case In France to-aay, mey were contending against a temporal power that sought to obtain supreme sway in matters spiritual. During the greater part of the time repre eented In the reigns of the popes mentioned the Christian world was Catholic. The pope was the official and .. legitimate representative of rellKlon and as such it 'was necessary that he ' should be clothed with a power sufficient to control princes and compel them to respect the Independence of the church In her sphere, which, because of the incorporation into the civil law of many of the ecclesiastical laws, was of far wider scope than is or could be now. Temporal princes sought to combine In .- themselves both the imperial and the pontifical power and the authority of the church to resist the pontifical ambl tlon of temporal rulers was no usumatlon. nor did it rest, as is sometimes fallaciously asserted, on any civil grant.. It grew out of the necessity of the case and had its jus tification In tha, necessity to maintain ' the independence of the church as representing their spiritual order. The conditions against which Gre gory VII, Innocent III and Boniface VIII struggled in their antagonism - toward the German , emperors, the : kings of France, Aragon, England and the Italian republics were such that the autonomy of the church la her own legitimate sphere was threatened and the church was sim ply fighting for her life against the encroachments of temporal sovereigns , and hence the long drawn out an tagonism of the middle ages. - But here In the United States the exercise of such a power Is not neces sitated bv nrevalltne conditions since the state here frankly concedes all that the church was struggling for in the days of her greatest papal chamiiions. Here the church has .ill she has 'ever claimed, perfect free dom to work out her mission in her own way. She convenes her councils and promulgates their decrees and no mandate from the white house says them nay. .No presidential or congressional placet Is required for her to create new dioceses and ap point bishops thereto.-fin her splr Kuala and temporals she manages her own affairs without let or hindrance and not by any concession made to her, but as an acknowledged right In the main there is nothing the church can receive from civil society that she has not in this country and all she can seek and does seek in re lation to the constitution Is that .it remain unaltered. I am a very un important and not very widely known clergyman of the Catholic church, but I think that I speak for every in- telllgent American Catholic who un derstands rightly the position of his church in this country that the bulls or briefs of the popes alluded to would not affect American Catholics. At ipiost only two of them, Plus IX and Leo XIII, could bt considered, since the others were anterior to the formation of the constitution of the United States, and I cannot, off-hand recall any utterance of either that would place the American Catholic In a nosltlon antasrnnlstlc r n tha fvinarl tntlon. I can recall many utterances of both and of the present pope In laudation of the snlrlt.nf frparim.i manifested by ofir government to all churches. Catholics of the United States do not need to seek for union of church and state any more than any other religious denomination. We have that union, a union that every other religious body desires as much as we do, a true union not unity without which the liberty of the citizen nor the authority of the state has any solid' support, a union that consists in this: that church and state, lib erty and authority, are In the most harmonious relationships. Had the same freedom and independence been granted to the church in other times and other countries, the .Catholic church would not have been forced to arraign herself against temporal powers for her own preservation, and a fact that seems to escape the notice or many is, that precisely what medieval popes struggled for first found its realization in this great re public of ours. In the words of one of her most eloquent sons and one of the most - enthusiastic American.?, Archbishop Ireland: "Esto per-petua"!- - , When the Catholic church is Im pugned as being opposed to separa tion of church and state, a little ex planation is in order. She does not desire the unity of both as corpora tions. Her constant doctrine ha3 ever been that each is supreme in ita own sphere. But she has protested against the complete dissociation of political principles from theological principles in the sense in which such separation was understood by Eu ropean governments and of which France gave us an example In 190$ in its dealings with- the church, a separation that was founded on priv ilege and not' on right, and which meant in this last analysis that the state is supreme and that whatever freedom the church possesses she possesses at the good will of the tate. 1 - In the United States that Is not so! Here the church (and I now Include It denominations In the word) has her freedom or action based on rights and fettered only by one re striction that no denomination shall bridge-the -rights of the citizens of .any other denomination. The- state with ui Is based upon equal rights and not on privileges, aud aufong thnse rights are the rights' of con science which after all must be for every man his church. ; And these rights are not derived from the state or civil society. If the constitution of the United States proclaims them It Is because as it declares, they are Inalienable and therefore ' natural-rights; and nat ural, too, In the sense of theologians, vis: as held under the law of na ture. And these natural rights we derive from God our creator. And since they are not derived from the temporal order, and In thr last analysis they are not, there is but one other order and that la the spir itual, and every religious denomina tion which would not lose Its Iden tity must protest against a complete separation of political from theo logical principles. In other words it must protest against political athe ism or pure statolatry which would bring us back to the days of auto cratic and despotic pagan absolutism. The invariable principles of a civil society founded upon the equal rights of men are theological princi ples and to tolerate a code of politi cal principles at variance with these would be subversive of the rights guaranteed by the constitution as natural rights. So far as I know this is the only separation against which the Catholic church disclaims. And I venture to assert that Luther ans and Baptists, Methodists and Episcopalians, , Congregatlonalists and Presbyterians would alike' pro test did our government attempt to organize a movement that would take from them their rights. ' When our Lutheran friends, there fore, assert . that the Catholic church does not Btand for complete separation of church and state, they ought to understand that we do not tolerate such a separation as is ex emplified in France, which Is in reality no separation but an absorp tion of the church by the state. When they tell us even by Implication, that here In the United States we do not stand for the separation of church ana state, they ought in all fairness to be a little more categorical in their accusation and tell us when the church not some over-zealous Indi vidual desired union in any other sense than that which I have ex plained above. When in the history of the United States has the Catholic church not stood "for full and per fect religious liberty as understood by all America and defined in our federal constitution?" Freedom of conscience,' the right of every man to worship . God according to the dic tates of conscience Is essentially a part of the Catholic faith. And the greatest theologian the Catholic church ever had, St Thomas Aquinas, teaches the doctrine. And so fully does the church recognize that right that no Catholic priest would receive into the church anyone from President Roose velt down, whom he knew to be con strained by any other than conscien tious, Intellectual conviction that her doctrine Is right. "Are we not compelled," says the Lutheran committee,, "to maintain that a loyal Roman Catholic who ful ly understands the allegiance requir ed of him by the pope can never sin cerely subscribe to the federal con Btitution, or If he does,' never can he be expected to abide by it, enforce it or defend it." The Lutheran commit tee may be compelled to maintain this but I venture a guess that Presl dent Roosevelt will not side with them for he knows that they bare sincerely subscribed to it, that they have abided by It, that In the civil war they stood shoulder to shoulder with the non-Catholic fe'.low citizens In the trenches and before the can non's mouth to enforce, that at Las Guasimas and El Caney and San Juan hill they fought with him against a Catholic nation to uphold a cause which not even all non- Catholic Americans considered just When our Lutheran friends make Buch an assertion they brand with the detestable stigma of hypocrisy some fifteen millions of their fellow citizens, many of whom like myself. were born here, knew no emblem of civil authority but "old glory," and recognize no civil allegiance to any power, papal or other, save to the constitution of the United States Catholics owe allegiance to the pope as visible head of the church, but not as visible head of the nation. , It might as truly be asserted that a Christian because he owes allegiance to his God cannot be a good citizen The letter of the committee goes on to ask the president If he believes "that Lutherans and others are to be branded as bigots because they be lieve that chance should not be given Catholics to choose between his duty to his church and his duty to his country when holding high office." Not at all, for the president knows that the true Cathollo has no choice to make when holding high office,, that his duty is solely to his country and that his church Is not to be con sidered unless his country would dis criminate against his church In the rights guaranteed to all citizens alike, Irrespective of creed. As I take it the point the president wish ed to drive home was that the Cath olic, as any other citizen, must be considered loyal until he Is proven otherwise. And so far in this coun try, though many of them have held high office, they have not been prov ed otherwise than loyal citizens and as such their religion should not be a barrier to their election. The letter closes with a demand nothing lesstbat the president show "his unquestioned sincerity and courage." If he notices the let ter at all, I believe he will show the same sincerity and courage that prompted him to place a Catholic and a Jew In his cabinet, not because the one Is a Catholic and the other a Jew but because he knew them to be hon est, upright, loyal American citizens. And that Is true Americanism. T. M. CROWLEY. St Thomas's Church. TIMELY TOPICS. -i Currant anniversary sale is draw ing out the crowds this week again.. The bargains are wonderful. Special bargains at the Hub gro- iery to-morrow and stamps given away. See combinations. Credit and satisfaction are what you get when you trad with Union Credit Clothing Co. How can I cheat the doctor? Read . Dodge the shoeman's ad and find out. for yourself. MAGNET m TROUCLE Ctlciflo Jeweler Brligs Soil For Goods Pnrcbisci. Mrs Anule - Baylor, alias "The Georgia Magnet" Is again In trouble with alleged creditors. The plaintiff in the case this time is Herbert L, Joseph of Chicago who claims 1533 for Jewelry such as diamond rings, pins and things he sold her. The creditor Is represented by Attorney J. F. McGratb. and the '"Magnet" by Attorney W. E. Monagan. Her de fense is that the goods were receiv ed by one of two other women who for. years have been posing as the genuine "Georgia Magnet." She claims she was far from Chicago the week the goods were sold to her as alleged, and though several photo graphs have been Identified as her, she Insists she Is not the original. The Idea of her ever buying jewelry and not paying for it is absolute nonsense. She who played before the crowned heads of Europe, not paying her bills! Nonsense! If she could not pay her bills, she would like to know how she could afford to adopt about thirty-six children here and there throughout the country, didn't one hoy cost her almost $2,000 in Seattle, Wash., with his pranks and didn't she pay It without a mur mur. Yes,, and gladly would pay more, she said. During the hearing her married life was brought out and she admitted that a certain man got a divorce from her a few years ago but he was never, never her husband, and never again. And while she was so speaking the- huge plumes In her hat nodded emphasis to every word she uttered. Judge Coweil continued the case to December a to give the counsel on both sides time to collect more evidence., HILL SPEAKS OUT Announces His. Candidacy for Senate in Circular Letter. Congressman Hill has sent out a circular letter through the state an nouncing formally and in a dignified manner the fact that he Is a candU date for the vacancy In the United States senate, which develops when Mr Brandegee's term expires. The following Is the text of the letter: Dear Sir By their own voluntary act the editors of several republican newspapers in the state have pre sented me to the people of Connec ticut as a candidate for the position of United States senator. The choice will be made by the general assem zly in January next. After full consideration I have de cided to be a candidate and ask your co-operation and support. Fourteen years ago I was named by the fourth district republican con vention for congress and, facing a previous democratic majority of more than 2,000, was elected by 5,000 majority. . Since then I have been renominat ed seven times . without opposition and at the last election received more than 13,000 majority. Three days after the first election I retired from business . -and have since then devoted myself exclusive ly to caring for and serving the in terests of the district. ' I base my candidacy now upon - by record for these years. It is an open book for all to read when choose to do so. The experience thus acquired ought to be of value to the whole state. I desire to make a clean, honor able and dignified canvass for the senatorshlp and invite any inquiries you may wish to make concerning my views upon pending national questions. My republicanism is that of Roosevelt and Taft. I believe in the high ideas of the Roosevelt admin istration; I have supported its ben eficent policies. I earnestly advo cated the nomination of Judge Taft, spoke on the stump for him in New York and Vermont as well as Con necticut, and heartily rejoice in his election. For me it will not only be a plain duty but a very great pleas ure to .do all In my power toward making his presidency memorable for its success in all ways and for the enduring benefits conferred by it on our" beloved country. Very Truly Yours, E. J. HILL. TIMELY TOHCS. Dr Jerome D. Wirt, osteopath, has opened an office in the Buckingham building. Drugless treatment. The Model market will have a fresh line of Thanksgiving supplies at prices lower than ever. Hampson-Sellew Co Glen wood ranges are always satisfactory. They have Glenwood heaters also. Grieve, Blsset & Holland have a big line of table linens, cloths and napkins for Thanksgiving use. All of fashion's modes and fancies can be found at F. L. Marks & Co's, In Buckingham building. Jones, Morgan & Co have hand some long fancy coats from $15 to $40. They also have the right kind of footwear . The Boston Millinery Co have all the latest touches in good stylish headgear for ladles. J. B. MulIIngs A Son have topcoats in all colors and weights. Raincoats $15 to $28. i ' HolCzer has good shoes at low prices. Ladles' shoes In all leathers at $2. The Model market Co is selling good flour at 1 5c a sack, good mixed tea at 20c a pound. J. G. Jackie ft Son sell the Emer son shoe at $3.50 and $ Honest all through. Norton's pineapple cheese at Woodruff Grocery Co's. Two sites, good cheese, 40c and 60c. Furniture of every kind at Boston Furniture Co's. The prices will suit every poeketbook. New list of toilet necessities at Reld Hughes. Read the prices they quote to-night. Rosengarten suits and skirts are made to suit. Quality and prices are always what you want. Zlglatzkl-Marks Co have Masury's and Hansom paints, suitable for car riages and sleighs. Miller ft Peck are having a sale on horse robes and blanket. Line ot fur robes at $3.98 and $.. Upson, Singleton Co hare every kind of clothes foi Tfcanksgtv'ng callers and diners. Shirts, neckwear -gloves. ? RIGHT O.V THK1K JOIMJ Elks From Down th Road Held - 8 way Here Last Night. The special train which steamed Into the station, last night had on board a Jolly lot of fellows. They were the Elks from Bridgeport, Stamford, Norwslk, . Derby and An sonla, coming here to pay their re spects and a few dollars to the Wa terbury Elks fair and festival. They were met at the station by a big del egation of local Elks and escorted through 'the center to the hall, where they were greeted with cheers by the brothers, who had congregat ed to await their coming. Wheeler Wilson band, which bad been brought along to keep things lively, played in the parade. At the Elks rooms a little spread had been pre pared for the visiting Elks and their wives and daughters, who bad ac companied tbem. Afterwards all adjourned to the Buckingham hall, where a general eood Hum followed ! until It was time for the visitors to I leave for their special train, when j they were escorted to the depot ana given a rousing send-off. The vlsi I tors were completely carried away wun me spienaia music lurnisnea ny the Empire Women's orchestra and they one and all remarked that it was the best music they had ever heard. To-night down from the country above us will come the Winsted, Torrlngton and Thomaston jolly Elks. All way stations will contrib ute a few more. They also will be accompanied by their lady friends. It is expected that two or three hun dred will be In attendance. All tne local Elks are expected to be on hand at 7:30 this evening to give the boys from up the road a grand welcome. The American band has been engaged to furnish the music, there will be plenty of red fire and the parade will take the same course as last evening. Those are Elk nights for sure and the local Elk who neglects to .be one of the wel comes. Is forgetting his duty to his lodge. -- There will be additional at tractions at the fair. It is only two days more too before the fair comes to an-end and If you have not yet got In on ' the ground floor as re gards the automobile or the golden treasures, you should avail yourself of the opportunity, now thrown open to you. - BROOKLYN BBIEFS. Upson, Singleton & Co's "Nufangl" trousers fit without a wrinkle, $3. Joseph Ryan, aged 3, was badly burned at his home on Highland avenue last evening by tipping over a pot of boiling tea. A moving picture theater has been opened in Brooklyn. The thea ter is in a store on upper Bank street and last evening a capacity audience was present. The B. A. C. team and the AU Waterburys will meet on Thanksgiv ing day and it only remains for the details to be completed. There is a keen rivalry between the teams and both elevens seem to be equally matched. The annual dance and sociable of the Brooklyn Athletic club will be held at City hall on Thanksgiving night. The arrangement committee expects to do considerable work with in the next week in order that the dance' will be on a par with similar events given by this popular organi zation. FOR SALE Cheap, and a good in vestment, my 4 family block, also house, or for rent, on Cheshire trol ley. J. p. Twining, 109 Bank st, Wednesday evening. 11-17-3 TO RENT 4 rooms, third floor, all Improvements, rent $10. Inquire D. T. Farrlngton, 337 East Main st. 11-17-3 TO RENT Four room tenement, all ' improvements, at 30 Adams st. In quire on premises. 11-17-3 Waterbury's Largest . . fx I I s-V I ;&.& ' fPi I ;t r " 4 J Mi Jones, Morgan & Warm Goods. Soft and Easy Comfort Shoes for. Old Ladies. Warm and Com fortable. Just the shoe for house wear. IMPERIAL SHOE STORE, 00 South Main, Down Three Steps. JOHN McELLIGOTT. SPECIAL Double Roasting Pan at Bargain Price. Size 12x18 inches and 8 inches deep. Actual value 50c. Our Special Price for Tuesday. November 17th. 29c. If vou need this for Thankseivine this is vour opportunity. SPECIAL PEICE FOE THE ABOVE DATE ONLY. FENNER'S, 78 SOUTH MAIN ST. Telephone 168-4. Outfitters to Man and Boy-Hats to Shoes. SOME HANDSOME LONG FANCY COAT for Young Dressers Fancy Scotch Cheviots, Velours and Tweeds, in the new browns, the light grays, the olives, fog and smoke shades, and the new English double faced coatings, made with roll collar .or the button-to-neck military collar, patch or box pockets, plain or fancy cuffed sleeves, $15.00 to $40 00 How Are Your Feet? . Our $3.50 and $4.00 footwear is a preserver of feet and temper. A fit. when you put them onand next day too. f YOUR They Need an Overcoat or Win ter Suit All sorts of tastes in Boys Clothes ean be Fully satisfied here. What ever your idea, you'll find Something here to meet your wants. R. R. Harder & Co. : IOS Bank Street. Straight Knee Pant Suits, 1-2 Price. The Very Best Makes of overshoes and rubbers for every member of the family. Our stock of these winter necessities is most complete and consists of the BEST QUALITIES ONLY. THERE IS NO PLACE HERE FOR INFERIOR GOODS. Every pair is guaranteed to wear sat isfactory. Ask to see our high cut shoe for men for $2.00, worth $2.50. FRANK, The Shoeman 156, 158 and 160 South Main Street. Telephone 173-2. A Large Stock Of woolens direct from the mills has just arrived and enables us to make up suits and overcoats at short notice and short figures, come in and see what cash will buy L,. BECKER TAILOR 28 EXCHANGE PLACE. GENERAL FIRE INSURANCE AND STEAMSHIP AGENCY. Full information concerning any ocean voyage cheerfully furnished, and complete arrangements made for any c'ass of passage. Travelers' checks and foreign money orders issued to any pirt of the world MRS JOHN RYAN. 507 North Main St Telephone 507-12 Co., Inc. BOYS KM Flowering Bulbs of All Kinds. Tulips, Daffodils, Hyacinths and all Other Varieties. . Special Sale on Boston Ferm. Saxe & Floto 205 South Main St.; We want all the people in Water, bury and neighboring towns to know all about our business, our goods,, and our prices, and they are, the best that can be bought or found any-, where in the state. . ... - Our line comprises everything la the watch and jewelry line,, such as" Diamonds, Rings, Watches, Chains, Lockets, Brooches, Pins, Scarf Pins, Fob Chains, Jewel Boxes, Christmas' Gifts, and Hollow Ware: also Clock of all kinds for narlor. offlc nr store use. J. Galley & Co, MANUFACTURING JEWELERS. 25 Grand st, near South Main June You Will Soon .a Need An Overcoat. Call and let me show you my line of MIS-FIT AND SECOND-HAND OVERCOATS. The Best Assortment of Second hand Clothing in the City. Bargain Prices on Underwear, Neck ties and Men's Furnishings. Highest Price Paid for Cast-off Clothing. A. R. POSNER, Remember the number. 277 Bank St. COAL and WOOEf Orders promptly delivered. Tard, 179 South Leonard atrC Office C Bank t. Exchange Place, One Flight Up. Tel. FRANK FLAMMIA & CO. WOOD and Charcoal. JOHN BYRON Yard aar rutm k ifroodt Co in, n offlo- with J. B. Drtraai. XS Eart Mala M. TtiaplMM. o v t wwa)aj)aaj, . Blip Ml George r