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JNep1r JNep1rfaterested eeplyjai
jai Interested crowd crowdlast crowdrUlouse crowdI
I se rUlouse last night nightMreee nlg nlgo nightMdrees
Mdrees Mreee of o Governor Governorl Governorever
JIi l ever distinguished distinguishedii d1stl distinguishedeIabject gulshed gulshedjtct
ii eIabject tl j jtct ct of tha Drain DrainIt
M It Brbome introduced introducedJacksonville
of Jacksonville as the thepd thepd
pd lid made a short shortie
ie was enthusiastical enthusiasticaltie
o tie amendment a > and andto andseterIto
seterIto to vote for it itby itlnred
lnred by Hon Sid L Lwho LgQJaeni1Ie
gQJaeni1Ie who said that thatt thatiieetigaUon
t jfcrwiigatlon he had hadttet hadtlattthe
ttet tlattthe the drainage drainageWM
WM sot only feasi feasiof feasit
t > of all others the theM thedx
M dx He said he had hadttariitlk hadt
ttariitlk t tajwtifaWon of the theMi thekPe
kPe Mi dt claimed that thatproperty
the property of o oMum the State Statetrawls
trawls Mum 90 because no noto noflEettt
flEettt to the railthough rail railshort
though short wasbe was wasHftrrdl
be aqimant aqimantI
I T Hftrrdl introduced introducedlifjflifwo
lifjflifwo 1 wbo spoke in sub subprinciple subi subtt
tt eettled principle and andI
I I > am m convinced convincedar
attic ar K11e no opposition that thator thatlam
lam for or the land of the theto thealaatry
alaatry to be divided as ast asraidotp
t whdoig can accomplish accomplishi6e
F ilk wler giving each eache eachrut
rut are e It is for the theprinciple theof
of thus principle in the theMr theI
I Mr appeal to you who whorpttc whoper
per to decide this ques quespjwsiwif queseeireeto
pjwsiwif eeireeto to vote dent Nov NovMl NovCSSMghtloai
CSSMghtloai Ml Amend Amendnage Amendto
to the drainage nage and re reitiM ret
itiM t Everglades If this thisth thishlr4oted
th hlr4oted Mepted the opposition oppositionot
1 ot the Internal Im ImSU Imtid
SU + tid who are endeavor endeavorwt
wt the obligation of offillip ofvUl
fillip vUl b of no avail and andiH andi
iH i fctofined entirely to toand touad
and land syndicates syndicatesto
t iroring to acquire the thefor thebar
for the purpose of ofenriching
hereby enriching them themPwIinMTerlahment
e impoverishment the of the theto thehd
hd + ultted to you what I Iat
ud t sufficient reasons reasonsan
at eu an n affirmative vote votealBage
drainage amendment amendmentwly amendmentclearly
clearly wly demonstrated demonstratedi
theTrustees i Trustees to drain n
4d I when that work i iet Is IsH s
H the lands for th the thejfljile e
tk jfljile Who own under r
et tk the law I now su b
Ie + ac earnest considfer considferot
f ton ot drainage and an d
peat Its merits meritstiog
tiog Corrected Correcteding
ing into the discus discusI
l I drainage pr o
it Weill for me to clear
t The plan of th e
tar to be familiar
aanf the Everglades
duds to create con
lids of the people
leis start right i t
e for us to end right
thk Uestlon b y yaft stating
aft errustees is for til e
t >
a Everglades
It I I Ia
a to drain the
entire entiree e
e see patpose to open th e
by cutting a
gala from the se a
veYuir Lake Ok e
the means of car
b of that basin
for prlvate own
dire area by cuttin g
t9 the main
7 canal s
It is the sub
t ° will drain th e
f eustees Th e
It possible fo r
fit them by of
p s tlet for thei r
tr river Is a natural
ditches Land s
x i d
ar aralrhich e
alrhich fall o oen n
en these land s
Mural drainag e
the work of th E
the work o
1 tai ai
settlers wil I
tvaient of the plat
Gera the objectio n
o ink as thei r
win burn u utt
tt their pla planot
not be
take x n
taken oft b y
the sav
trucUon b bc bw y
US u S Si95a
i biu Mr James Hill old master paints a picture showing Uncle Sam what hes coming om09 to toBartholomew toBartholomew toBartholomew
Bartholomew in in Minneapolis Journal
fire can I think safely be left to tothose tot tothose
those t ose who settle upon itFeasibility it itFeasibility ItFeasibility
Feasibility of Drainage DrainageIn
4In In spite oMhe of the most painstaking ef efforts efforts efforts ¬
forts to show the contrary every eng engineer engIneer engineer ¬
ineer who has surveyed the area areaagrees areaagrees areaagrees
agrees that it is feasible to drain ItPiofiles ItPioflles it itProfiles
Profiles of survey made from Okeech Okeechobee Okeechobee Okeechobee ¬
obee to the sea by direction of Capt CaptWilliam CaptWnUam CaptWilliam
William Black United States En Engineer Engineer Engineer ¬
gineer and by Capt Gilmore United UnitedStates UnitedStates UnitedStates
States Engineer and by b J M Krea Kreamer Kreamer Kreamer
mer Disstons engineer all show that thatOkeechobee thatOkeechobee thatOkeechobee
Okeechobee is 21 feet above sea level leveland leveland leveland
and that no natural obstacles are inthe in inthe inthe
the way of any route from Okeecho Okeechobee ¬
bee to the Gulf on one side and the theAtlantic thetIantic
Atlantic > on the other The fall from fromOkeechobee fromOkeechobee
Okeechobee to the sea Is greater than thanthe thanthe
the fall of the St Johns river from fromits fromIts
its source source to the sea although the thedistance thedistance thedistance
distance traversed by this natural naturaldrainage naturaldrainage
drainage way exceeds that of the theartificial
artificial drainage way wa the Trustees Trusteespropose Trusteespropose Trusteespropose
propose to cut by upwards of 150 150miles 150miles 150miles
miles The St Johns river drains drainsan
an Immense area with a fall much muchless muchless
less than the fall of the proposed proposeddrainage proposeddrainage proposeddrainage
drainage canals from Okeechobee to tothe tothe
the sea For your information I pro produce produce produce ¬
duce profiles made by the various variousengineers variousengineers variousengineers
engineers who have surveyed routes routesfrom routesfrom routesfrom
from Okeechobee to the sea These Theseprofiles Theseprofiles Theseprofiles
profiles were made under the direc direction direction ¬
tion of the following engineers First Firstfrom Firstfrom Firstfrom
from Kissimmee to Okeechobee Ol byCapt by byGapt byCapt
Capt Deakyne U S engineer 1901 1901second 1901second 1901second
second Lake Okeechobee to the Gulf Gulfof GuUof
of Mexico Capt Wm Black U S Sengineer Sengineer Sengineer
engineer 1887 third Okeechobee to toSt toSt
St Lucie river by J O Fries civil civilengineer civilengineer
engineer made for the Trustees in
1905 fourth Okeechobee to Lake LakeWorth LakeWorth
Worth made by V P Keller 1891 1891for 1891for
for Disston Drainage Co fifth Okeechobee Oke Okeechobee Okeechobee ¬
echobee to New River by J M Kreamet Krea Kreamer Kreamer
mer chief engineer Disston Drain Drainage Dralnage Drainage
age Co 1891 and by J W V Newman Newmancivil Newmancivil
civil engineer for the Trustees in
1905 I ask that yau carefully con consider consider conalder ¬
sider these profiles and ask yourself yourselfthe ol1rseIfthe
the question whether or not the feasi feasibility feasibility ¬
bility of taking the water from Lake LakeOkeechobee LakeOkeechobee
Okeechobee to the sea can be further furtherquestioned furtherquestioned furtherquestioned
questioned questionedCost
Cost of the Work ark Undertaken UndertakenUp
uUp Up to the time that your dredge dredgeEverglades dredgeEverglades
Everglades commenced work the theTrustees theTrustees
Trustees who are carrying on the thework thework
work for you relied upon estimates estimatesas
as to the cost of their undertaking undertakingThese undertakingThese undertakingThese
These estimates were made by prac practical practical practical ¬
tical men learned in the computa computation ¬
tion of the cost of such work and in include Include inelude ¬
clude no less an authority than J M MKreamer MKreamer <
Kreamer KreamerBut
But now that your dredge is at atwork atwork atWork
work I do not depend upon estimates estimatesbut estimatesbut
but am able to give you actual fig figures figures ¬
ures uresThe The plans include the cutting of
500 miles in round numbers of large largedrainage largedrainage
drainage canals from fromOkeechobee Okeechobee to
tidewater ranging from 50 to 120 120feet 120feet 120feet
feet wide and 10 1 o feet deep deepIt
It costs 1200 per month to oper operate operate operate ¬
ate each dredge Each dredge will willmove willmove willmore
move six cubic yards of material per perminute perminute perminute
minute or 93600 per month of 26 26working 26working 26working
working days da s Each dredge will cut cutnearly cutnearl30 cutnearly
nearly one mile of canal per month monthof
of the average width of 60 feet feetIt feetuIt feetIt
uIt It costs 1200 per month to oper operate operate operate ¬
ate each dredge or 635000 for the
500 miles of canal Add to this 300
000 the cost of six dredges at an anaverage anaverage anaverage
average of 50000 each and add addalso addalso addalso
also 100000 for repairs and the thetotal thetotal thetotal
total cost of the waterways or main maindrainage mandrainage maindrainage
drainage canals will be 1035000 1035000In
UIn In report to his company J M MKreamer MKreamer MKreamer
Kreamer estimated the cost of dig digging digging ¬
ging drainage canals at one and six sixtenths sixtenths
tenths cents per cubic yard or 112
637 for a canal 24 miles long 150 150feet
feet wide and 8 feet deep deepValue deepValue
Value of Lands When Drained DrainedIn
In his report to his employer employerHamilton employerHamilton employerHamilton
Hamilton Disston Kreamer in 1881 1881said 1881said 1851said
said The Import duties on sugar for formanufacturing formanufacturing formanufacturing
manufacturing purposes from the theyear therear theyear
year 1847 to 1879 varied from om 2 2to 2to 4 4to
to 4 cents per pound We paid out outfor outfor outfor
for sugar and allied products during duringthis duringthis duringthis
this period 1800000000 Our Ourwestern Ourwestern Ourwestern
western mines produced 1700000 1
000 or in other words during a aperiod aperiod aperiod
period of 32 years ears as a nation we wepaid wepaid wepaid
paid out in round numbers 100000
But since Kreamers report prac practical practical ¬
tical farmers have settled on the land landin landin
in the edge of the Everglades and andhave andhave
have demonstrated by the remark remarkably remarkably ¬
ably success they have made that this thisEverglades thisEverglades
Everglades land when reclaimed is isthe Isthe isthe
the richest and most fertile in the theworld theworld
world Farmers adjacent to New NewRiver NewRiver NewRiver
River shipped 125000 crates of ve vegetables vegetables vegetables ¬
getables from Fort Lauderdale dur during during during ¬
ing the season just past The com commodities commodltles commodities ¬
modities raised from the sail and andtransported andtransported andtransported
transported on four miles of this thissmall thissmall thissmall
small river now exceed in value those thoseraised thoseraised thoseraised
raised from the soil and transported transportedon
on the St Johns river 200 miles in inlength Inlength inlength
length Your dredge is now in New NewRiver NeWRiver NewRiver
River cutting its way into the glades gladesLast gladesLast gladesLast
Last year people of the United States Statespaid Statespaid Statespaid
paid out for sugar alone 13500000 13500000more
more than the total amount received receivedfrom receivedfrom receivedfrom
from exports of corn wheat flour flourbeef fiourbeef flourbeef
beef and naval stores added together togetherAll
All of the sugar consumed in the theUnited theUnited theUnited
United States in one year can be beraised beraIsed beraised
raised oa a small portion of the three threemillion threemillion threemillion
million acres which you own in the theEverglades theEverglades theEverglades
Everglades One acre of land in the theEverglades theEverglade3 theEverglades
Everglades is capable of raising and andfattening andfatteniIig andfattening
fattening for market two head of cat ¬
tle The stockman who is obliged to tofence tofence tofence
fence ten acres of land elsewhere to toraise toraise toraise
raise two head of cattle and is also alsoobliged alsoobllged alsoobliged
obliged to feed them during the win winter winter winter ¬
ter months needs no argument to toconvince toconvince toconvince
convince him that the people need needthe needthe needthe
the Everglades where the grass grassgrows grassgrows grassgrows
grows rich and green the year round roundand roundand roundand
and is capable of supporting 20 times timesthe timesthe timesthe
the number of cattle per acre The Thefarmer Thefarmer Thefarmer
farmer who Is accustomed to haul to tomarket tomarket tomarket
market one bale of cotton worth 50 50from 50from 50from
from three acres of ground which whichhe
he has worked early earl and late to culti cultivate cultivate cultivate ¬
vate needs no argument to convince convincehim convincehim
him of the necessity of opening for foragricultural foragricultural foragricultural
agricultural pursuits this vast do domain domain domain ¬
main when he reads that land on the theborder theborder theborder
border of the Everglades and exactly exactlysimilar exactlysimilar exactlysimilar
similar in character to mosfof most of that thatof thatof thatof
of the inside area produces year after afteryear afteryear afteryear
year with a small amount of work workcrops workcrop3 workcrops
crops which are sold at prices rang ranging ranging rangin ¬
ing in from 500 to 1500 per acreWho acre acreWho acreVito
Who the Land Belongs To ToThe ToThe ToThe
The contention of the present presentBoard
I Board of Trustees is that the United UnitedStates UnitedStates UnitedStates
States Government never intended intendedI intendedthat
1 that this large area of land which i ideeded it itdeeded itdeeded t
deeded to the State at the request of ofthe ofthe o othe f
the Legislature for specific purposes purposesset purposeset s
set forth in the request namely to toreclaim toreclaim toreclaim
reclaim it and when that work was wasdone wasdone wasdone
done to use it for the benefit of education edu education education ¬
cation I say that the grantors of ofthis ofthis ofthis
this principality greater than the theState theState th thState e
State of Massachusetts had no idea ideathat ideathat Ide Idethat a
that nearly twothirds of it would wouldbe woulbe d
be given away to corporations on any anypretext anypretext anypretext
pretext even the plausible one o oopening of ofopening atopening f
opening up the State to transporta transportation ¬
tion by the building of highways The TheLegislature TheLegislature Th ThLegislature e
Legislature of 1855 had no idea that thatthese thatthese thathese t
these lands could be used for any anyother anyother anyother
other purpose than that of drainage drainageand drainagand e
and reclamation and education be because because b bcause e ¬
cause that Legislature while the sub subject subject subject ¬
ject was fresh fr sh put it beyond the thepower thepower th thpower e
power as it thought of subsequent subsequentLegislatures subsequentLegislatures subsequenLegislatures t
Legislatures to dispose of this land landin landIn lanin d
in any other manner to any person personor
or persons or corporations except for forthe forthe fo fothe r
the carrying out of the object of the thegrant thegrant th thgrant e re
grant reclamation by passing a law lawwhich lawwhich la lawhich w
which vested the title of these landin lands landsin s
in the Trustees of the Internal Im Improvement Improvement Improvement ¬
provement Fund which Board o oTrustees of ofTrustees ofTrustees f
Trustees was made perpetual by fixing fix fixing fixing ¬
ing its membership in administrative administrativeofficers administrativeofficers administrativofficers e
officers of the State governmentwhose government governmentwhose governmentwhose
whose successors would always be in inoffice inoffice i ioffice n
office The title to these lands was wasvested wasvested w wvested
vested in the Trustees by this act an ana and anda d
a sacred trust was created to hold holdthem holdthem hol holthem d
them for the benefit of the people peopleThat peopleThat peopleThat
That subsequent Legislatures had no noright noright n nright o
right to grant any of the lands in included included ineluded ¬
cluded in this deed of trust which whichlands whichlands whiclands h
lands are all of those lying I ing south of ofthe ofthe o othe f
the northern boundary of Okeecho Okeechobee o ¬
bee and the Caloosachatchee river riverbetween riWrbetween riverbetween
between the Ocean and the Gulf and andfor andfor an anfor d
for want of this right all grants made madeby madeby madby
by Legislatures subsequent to 1855 o
Was 11 as Prominent Citizen of Citrus CitrusCounty CitrUsCounty CitrusCounty
County and Member of Baptist BaptistChurch BaptistChU1Ch BaptistChurch
Church ChurchFloral ChU1ChFloral ChurchFloral
Floral City Oct 3 3Mr Mr Watt WattZ Wattlner
Z Zelner lner a prominent citizen of f this thiscounty t1i1scounty thiscounty
county was shot In the bowels with witha witha
a 38 calibre pistol by Barney StokesThe Stokes StokesThe StokesThe
The shooting occurred in front ofthe ot otthe otthe
the postoffice about 6 oclock Monday Mondayevening Mondayvenlng Mondayevening
evening There is no hope for Mr MrZelners MrZelners
Zelners Zelners recovery Stokes surrender surrendered ¬
ed to Sheriff Graham who happened happenedto
to be at his home in this placeZelner place placeZelner
Zelner and the Stokeses are farm farmers farmers farmers =
ers living about three miles from fromhere tr fromhere n nhere
here Trbuble has been brewing be between between between ¬
tween Barney Stokes his brothers brothersand brothersand brothersand
and Eldridge Morris a brotherinlaw brotherinlawof brother nIaw nIawotZelners
of Zelners for several days TheStokeses The TheStokeses TheStokeseshave
Stokeses Stokeseshave have been well armed and andit andIt
it Js alleged have been looking for an anopportunity anopportunity anopportunity
opportunity to settle the matter for forseveral forseveral forseveral
several days Friends of both sides sidesadvised sidesadvised sidesadvised
advised them to settle the matter matterpeaceably matterpeaceably matterpeaceably
peaceably Morris and Zelner came cameto cameto cameto
to town and sent word to the Stok Stokeses Stokeses Stokeses ¬
eses to come unarmed and they th y wouldtalk would wouldtalk wouldtalk
talk over the matter and tryto try tocome tocometo to cometo come cometo
to some agreement Morris and the theStokeses theStokeses theStokeses
Stokeses met near the postoffice aboutdark about aboutdark aboutdark
dark and it seems had about settled settledtheir settledtheir settledtheir
their troubles when Zelner walked upand up upand upand
and not ot understanding the situation situationmade situationmade situationmade
made some hasty remark to whichStokes which whichStokes whichStokes
Stokes replied and beganshooting beganshootingSome began shooting shootingSome shootingSome
Some say three shots were fired oth others others others ¬
ers think more Stokes was within withina
a few leet of Zelner when he shot shothim shothlIIi shothim
him A general fight tlg t ensued Morris Mo is
had one of the Stokes boys down downabout downabout downabout
about the time of the shooting After Afterhaving Afterhaving Afterhaving
having shot Zelner Barney Stokeswent Stokes Stokeswent Stokeswent
went to the assistance of his brother brotherHe
He placed his pistol In Morris face facedemanding facedemanding facedemanding
demanding that he turn his brother brotherloose brotherloose brotherloose
loose at the same time he grabbed grabbedMorris grabbedMo grabbedMorris
Morris Mo ris pistol Zelner was unarmed unarmedThere unarmedThere unarmedThere
There were four or five of the Stokes Stokesboys Stokesboys Stokesboys
boys No one seemed to know just justhow j justhow st sthow
how the matter started nor why there therewas therewas therewas
was not more shooting shootingare
are without authority cannot be bequestioned bequestioned bequestioned
questioned in face of the repeated decisions de decisions decisions ¬
cisions of the Supreme Court of the theUnited theUnited theUnited
United States that contracts are in inviolable Inviolable inviolable ¬
violable and of the specific decision decisionof
of the United States Supreme Court Courtin
in the case of MeGee v Mathis which whichdecision whichd whichdecision
decision d clsion held that the grant of the theland theland theland
land by b the United States to the State Stateof
of Florida and other obligation todrain to todrain todrain
drain is a contract contractThe contractTbe contractThe
The present Board of Trustees Trusteeshas
has taken the position that the grants grantsof
of the Legislature of the State ot otFlorida otFlorida ofFlorida
Florida are void for want of authority authorityover
over the lands granted because the thetitle thetitle
title of these lands was in 1855 vest vested Vested ¬ A
ed irrevocably In the Trustees who whoare whoare A Aare
are under contract with the Federal FederalGovernment l lGovernment y yGovernment
Government to drain and reclaim reclaimthem reclaimt11 r rthem
them t11 < > m and devote the residue remain remaining remaining remaining ¬
ing in their hands after the work of ofreclamation ofreclamation
reclamation has been accomplished accomplishedto
to the cause of education There Therehave Therehave
have been in the neighborhood of
20000000 acres of land deeded to tothe tothe
the State under the contract with the theUnited theUnited theUnited
United States Government There are arenow arenow
now remaining in the hands of the theTrustees theTrustees theTrustees
Trustees undeeded but 2920000 2920000acres
acres There are still unpatented
200000 acres which belong to the theFederal theFederal theFederal
Federal Government The 17000
000 acres given away illegally as I Iand Iand
and other Trustees construe the con contract contract ¬
tract with the National Government Governmentare
are gone with no hope of recall recallThere recallThere recallThere
There are are legislative grants for up upwards upwards upwards ¬
wards of 7000000 acres in addition additionto
to the 17000000 already deeded by bythe bythe
the Trustees or 4000000 acres more morethan morethan
than there is land remaining The Thebeneficiaries Thebeneficiarle3 Thebeneficiaries
beneficiaries of these grants are con contending contending contending ¬
tending in the courts with the theTrustees theTrustees
Trustees now for title to these lands landsbut landsbut
but though this contention has beengoing been beengoing beengoing
going on for some years the railroads railroadsthat railroadsthat
that are trying t ing to get them have care carefully carefull carefully ¬
fully full avoided bringing the question questionto
to an Issue In the course of the liti litigation litigation ¬
gation whenever it became manifestthat manifest manifestthat manifestthat
that the issue was about to be square squarely ¬
ly joined the railroads have invaria invariably inarIably invariably ¬
bly made a dilatory movement in the thecase thecase
case so as to get away from the Issue IssueThey is6neThey
They are afraid of it and their only onlycourse onlycourse
course Is to delay deJa the litigation In Indefinitely Indefiniteb indefinitely ¬
definitely and to try the power of ofwealth ofwealth
wealth with its ability to defeat the theContinued theContinued
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